An interesting market phenomenon: even though most heavy oil supplies flow to specific refineries, their prices are heavily suppressed by potential alternative supplies. The key point here is—market pricing is not only based on spot trading volume but also on what refineries can buy. In other words, the anticipated supply shock has already been reflected in the price. The logic behind this is worth pondering: market participants are always weighing marginal choices rather than simply focusing on current transactions. Any slight change on the supply side will immediately trigger price adjustments through expectations, which is why the market often leads fundamentals by a step.

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ForkYouPayMevip
· 01-23 06:17
Wake up, this is why spot traders always get headshot by futures

The expected pricing is too aggressive, it's impossible to defend

The market is always betting on the next move, now it's just starting to bleed
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RetiredMinervip
· 01-22 16:06
Ha, that's why the market is always one step ahead of the news, it's all about expectations playing tricks.

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Before substitute supply even arrives, prices are already being hammered down; refineries have long calculated their accounts.

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In simple terms, it's game theory—who reacts first makes money, and those who react late are the ones left holding the bag.

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The theory of pre-emptive pricing expectations is also used in the crypto world; some institutional news hasn't even been announced yet, and prices are already soaring.

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Interesting, talking about supply is easy, but in real operations, who can accurately predict it?

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Yes, that's how the market works—constantly pricing the story of the next second. The current data is already outdated.

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This logic applies universally to energy, agricultural products, and crypto assets; marginal thinking is the core.
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ChainWanderingPoetvip
· 01-20 06:54
Ha, this is what we often call "ghost supply," it doesn't even need to actually hit the market price to have already impacted it.

This thing is expected to be much more aggressive than the actual supply... No wonder I always feel that the fundamentals can't keep up with the market.

Wait, does that mean the news is always one step ahead of the K-line? I need to think about that.

Refineries are playing chess over there, while the market is following a ballet... The marginal options really are all in their hands.

This logic is actually game theory—the more options someone has, the more pricing power they hold.
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RuntimeErrorvip
· 01-20 06:50
Ha, isn't this just the market's pre-pricing logic? Refiners still have other options, so prices naturally can't be pushed up.

The market always plays the expectation game. The fundamentals only catch up later. I've always seen it this way.

Basically, marginal cost determines everything. Even with abundant spot supply, it can't withstand the pressure of substitutes, and this has already been reflected.

These days, relying on spot volume to judge prices is a bit naive.

Once the expectation mechanism is triggered, prices move. Even slight movements on the supply side can be reflected in advance. The market is much smarter than we think.
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RektButSmilingvip
· 01-20 06:45
Well... basically, the market is speculating on expectations, spot trading isn't that important anymore.

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This logic is a bit convoluted, but it feels like everyone is playing psychological warfare—who can guess the next move correctly.

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The tactic of replacing supply is really ruthless, directly controlling the chips.

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No wonder I always get my face slapped when chasing spot trades; I can't compete with this expectation-based pricing.

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Wait, doesn't that mean liquidity is more important than actual supply? Got it.

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By the way, this set of logic also applies to the crypto space, where expectations always come first.
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