From a design perspective, Dusk Foundation's方案几乎找不到什么漏洞。这个项目的野心很清晰:在「可验证」和「隐私保护」之间开辟一条新道路,而不是非此即彼地做选择。从纸面上看,这个思路优雅得不行。
The problem lies here—real-world development does not follow the theoretical script.
Traditional financial systems concern not only the dimension of "verifiability." They also care about responsibility tracing, post-intervention, fund freezing, transaction rollback, and enforcement. In essence, these operations directly infringe on privacy and decentralization. The difficulties Dusk faces are not technical but stem from fundamental institutional conflicts.
Specifically, Dusk aims to enable users to prove compliance with regulatory standards without fully revealing information. Ideally, this sounds reasonable. But in reality, regulatory thinking is quite the opposite—it is usually "interventionist" rather than "verification-based." Regulatory agencies are not satisfied with you proving "I am compliant"; what they actually want is "I must be able to intervene at any time."
This creates an irreconcilable paradox:
If the system truly protects privacy, it must limit intervention rights; if it allows strong intervention, it will inevitably undermine the privacy structure.
Dusk seeks a balance between these two forces, but this balance cannot be decided by a single project alone; it is determined through the collective game of society, legal frameworks, and power structures.
This is also my biggest concern about Dusk. It addresses a "future inevitable real problem," but it may not have the permission from the real world to solve this problem in an ideal manner.
This is not to say Dusk has no value. On the contrary—such projects' true value lies in forcing the entire world to confront this inherent contradiction.
But for investors or long-term followers, one point must be clear: Dusk's failure probability is not low, not because of design flaws, but because it directly challenges the fundamental logic of the existing order.
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PonziDetector
· 22h ago
Well said, this is the deadlock between reality and ideals.
Regulation is about "my omniscience," Dusk values privacy, and the two are fundamentally incompatible.
No matter how perfect the design is, the system is the ceiling.
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PerennialLeek
· 01-13 20:53
Talking about military strategy on paper is always impressive, but only when implemented do you realize how difficult it really is.
That's why I like these kinds of projects but don't dare to hold a heavy position... It's really a battle against the entire power structure.
Smart design can't withstand the iron fist of reality, profound.
Regulators don't really want your privacy proof; what they want is to control you at any time, to put it simply.
Dusk will eventually face that multiple-choice question: fish or bear paw.
No matter how perfect the technology is, it can't escape politics; it's a bit despairing.
It's harsh to say, but at least someone is challenging the system itself.
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GasFeeCrier
· 01-13 20:44
It's quite heartbreaking; no matter how perfect the technical solution is, you still have to bow...
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Dusk's issue is just hitting the wall of the system; regulators don't really want you to prove anything, they just want control.
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Wait, is this logic a bit absolute? Are privacy and intervention really completely opposite? It seems there are some middle-ground solutions.
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Investing in such projects is indeed risky, but maybe it's precisely because of the daring to challenge that there are opportunities? It's a bit like gambling.
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The reasoning is rough but not wrong; reality is much more complicated than on paper, and many projects die because of this.
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So, how is Dusk progressing now? Have they talked to regulators, or have they been working alone all along?
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Wow, this is like saying Dusk is playing a big game; if it doesn't succeed, they have to reshuffle the deck.
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Thinking about it carefully, it's terrifying; all privacy projects can't escape this curse.
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MondayYoloFridayCry
· 01-13 20:38
Talking about military strategy on paper is just that—on paper. The regulatory folks just want to choke you out.
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Well said. Privacy and intervention rights simply cannot coexist. Dusk is just sleepwalking.
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So ultimately, it's a systemic issue, not something technology can solve.
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That's why I've always said that elegant design is useless in reality; the system is the real boss.
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Instead of saying Dusk has problems, it's more accurate to say it's opposing the entire world's logic. The odds are too low.
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Feeling a bit powerless—good projects encounter bad order and fall before approval.
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I agree. These kinds of projects are doomed to tragedy unless the rules themselves change first.
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Forcing the world to face contradictions sounds nice, but in reality, it's just being rubbed against the ground by reality.
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Privacy protection versus power intervention—pick one. The world isn't that tolerant.
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BlockchainBouncer
· 01-13 20:31
Basically, it's like eggs hitting a rock; no matter how advanced the technology is, it can't withstand the harsh reality.
From a design perspective, Dusk Foundation's方案几乎找不到什么漏洞。这个项目的野心很清晰:在「可验证」和「隐私保护」之间开辟一条新道路,而不是非此即彼地做选择。从纸面上看,这个思路优雅得不行。
The problem lies here—real-world development does not follow the theoretical script.
Traditional financial systems concern not only the dimension of "verifiability." They also care about responsibility tracing, post-intervention, fund freezing, transaction rollback, and enforcement. In essence, these operations directly infringe on privacy and decentralization. The difficulties Dusk faces are not technical but stem from fundamental institutional conflicts.
Specifically, Dusk aims to enable users to prove compliance with regulatory standards without fully revealing information. Ideally, this sounds reasonable. But in reality, regulatory thinking is quite the opposite—it is usually "interventionist" rather than "verification-based." Regulatory agencies are not satisfied with you proving "I am compliant"; what they actually want is "I must be able to intervene at any time."
This creates an irreconcilable paradox:
If the system truly protects privacy, it must limit intervention rights; if it allows strong intervention, it will inevitably undermine the privacy structure.
Dusk seeks a balance between these two forces, but this balance cannot be decided by a single project alone; it is determined through the collective game of society, legal frameworks, and power structures.
This is also my biggest concern about Dusk. It addresses a "future inevitable real problem," but it may not have the permission from the real world to solve this problem in an ideal manner.
This is not to say Dusk has no value. On the contrary—such projects' true value lies in forcing the entire world to confront this inherent contradiction.
But for investors or long-term followers, one point must be clear: Dusk's failure probability is not low, not because of design flaws, but because it directly challenges the fundamental logic of the existing order.